Comments on LOST Rumours: Damon Lindelof Reveals Some Tidbits

The comment about Swan and literature strikes me, ...

2009-12-02T16:34:34.819Z

The comment about Swan and literature strikes me, and I know it's probably completely wrong and off the wall, as a reference to Marcel Proust's novel called In Search of Lost Time, sometimes rendered into english as Rememberance of Things Past. Swann's Way is the title of the first volume of the Novel.
Marcel Proust came up with a concept of involuntary memory, which seems as something that will be happening to losties as a result of the incident. This is my two cents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Search_of_Lost_Time

This is from Wikipedia: Involuntary memory is a conception of human memory in which cues encountered in everyday life evoke recollections of the past without conscious effort. Its binary opposite, voluntary memory, is a deliberate effort to recall the past. The term was coined by French author Marcel Proust. From this philosophical root, involuntary memory has become a part of modern psychology.

By the way, the last volume of this 7 volume novel is translated as Time Regained, or Past Recaptured, or Finding Time Again.

Maybe the Swan, is really a reference to the Swann in the Proust novels. It is a place where one Regains Time, Recaptures it, Renews it. I know, I'm completely on the wrong track. Just want to get this out there.

sorry for posting redundant information hopefully ...

2009-12-01T17:48:02.816Z

sorry for posting redundant information hopefully it gets caught, always a bridesmaid, never a bride...lol

@morningdrums: It's Finnish, not Swedish ;)

2009-11-22T01:30:49.932Z

@morningdrums: It's Finnish, not Swedish ;)

Has anyone considered that the word "EXECUTION", m...

2009-11-09T23:01:14.631Z

Has anyone considered that the word "EXECUTION", might refer to Faraday's death rather than his plan? Kind of like he wasn't supposed to die in that manner?

Just a thought...

Well we just got confirmation that Juliet is dead ...

2009-10-30T15:26:03.514Z

Well we just got confirmation that Juliet is dead dead dead, so if this is true, it'll be in the alt timeline probably.

"I'll decide what goes on my site" !! HAHA what ...

2009-10-28T20:45:53.952Z

"I'll decide what goes on my site"

!!

HAHA what were you thinking. I think this is a perfectly legitimate thing to post in the rumors section and btw there is no more significant lost website out there jeez. This is the only one I get on which is about 4x a day and lostpedia is the other one I get on regularly.

I doubt this is true. Why would he say this. Espec...

2009-10-28T20:21:32.840Z

I doubt this is true. Why would he say this. Especially the Sawyer Juliet business, its one of the biggest questions, why would he say it???

B*Locke, Damon's favorite character for the entire...

2009-10-25T01:36:10.151Z

B*Locke, Damon's favorite character for the entire show has been Jack. Carlton Cuse's favorite character has been Sawyer.

As promised, here is my explanation of Juliet's ch...

2009-10-20T16:44:57.597+01:00

As promised, here is my explanation of Juliet's choice between the primary and alternate realities.

I met Sean Whalen @ Costco and he told me that he ...

2009-10-20T09:30:48.065+01:00

I met Sean Whalen @ Costco and he told me that he was going back to Hawaii to Film Lost again...He totally spoiled it for me...LOL

I didn't make it through all the comments so maybe...

2009-10-20T08:33:37.741+01:00

I didn't make it through all the comments so maybe someone already mentioned this:
Hasn't Damons favorite character always been Sawyer because of his Han Soloesque persona? I thought I remembered him mentioning that a long while back. Also, I thought that bit about writing what was in the hatch was on the DVD specials in like season 2 or 3.
And lastly I REAAALLY hope that he wasn't jerking us around with that Juliet/Kate thing. I'm so sick of Kate messing everything up! I'd rather see Sawyer have a relationship with Juliets dead body than with Kate again, ick.

Wow lots of words, too many too read. The Swan mu...

2009-10-19T18:56:59.940+01:00

Wow lots of words, too many too read.

The Swan mural and The Blast Door Map are too different things. Radzinsky drew the Blast Door Map which was continued by Kelvin. It's very possible Desmond painted the Swan mural (although IRL I think Jack Bender painted it) but for the story it could have been Desmond.

Right idea, but wrong execution? I think this mea...

2009-10-19T17:08:55.798+01:00

Right idea, but wrong execution? I think this means the bomb was detonated in the wrong place. I think the bomb should have been detonated at the orchid. If you remember Daniel talked to Chang after a "small" incident had occurred at the orchid before the one at the swan. I think whatever happened at the orchid caused the "original" incident. If the losties had never gone back to 1977 then Radzinsky would have never pushed up the drilling schedule. Therefore they never broke the pocket of energy. Instead the small incident at the orchid resonated to a huge incident at the swan. A bomb at the orchid would have had the reset effect. A bomb at the swan has a canceling effect and perhaps through out a temporary alt time line.

The bomb detonated...and didn't detonate. There a...

2009-10-18T16:10:41.527+01:00

The bomb detonated...and didn't detonate. There are now two possible futures superimposed like Schrodinger's Cat. Jacob will offer Juliet the choice which survives.

Paul brings up a very good point. After Jack dropp...

2009-10-17T21:34:45.688+01:00

Paul brings up a very good point. After Jack dropped the bomb down the hole, if Juliet had not fallen in, the bomb would never have gone off. Juliet sacrificed herself (mostly involuntarily) and saved everyone with the bomb exploding. Otherwise, it NOT going off after Jack drops it, and Juliet falling down the hole right after, is completely pointless and stupid. We're supposed to think he's crying, screaming "comeon! comeon!" and hitting the bomb with a rock.. and then it just cuts and we'll find out in season 6 that... it cuts to nothing special, and Juliet sits there, staring at it, takes her last gap, then dies? Thats it? What kind of writing is that? Remember, we're watching LOST, not HEROES

Bigmouth, yes I agree like any concept on the show...

2009-10-16T20:10:50.836+01:00

Bigmouth, yes I agree like any concept on the show some people are thrilled at the thought of an alt. timeline and yet some certianly are not. The internet base of fans is more likely to appreciate an alt. timeline. The greater audience I really believe are furious however at the thought, feeling that like Gorge Garcia echoed (and lets be honest, that was a planted question, with the producers themselves showing their acknowledgment that an alt. timeline is risky) "the past 5 seasons will be for nothing." What a clever way to incorporate an idea then that already has legs, and show the audience, well wait, the timeline did change, but "you've already seen the change", it fits perfectly with the comicon response they gave to Garcia.

I think in plain english what Lindeloff meant in his "tidbit" quote about Faraday is that while he was correct about how to go about changing the future, it is impossible for him to know which timeline he was in, and therefore what to "execute" differently than had been done originally. In the (season 1-5)timeline, Farady "fails" at acheiving the desired reality where 815 doesnt crash, but he does this in fact by introducing the H-bomb as a "variable" into the equation.

Think about this...

When Radzinsky was fuming, ranting, and raving, insisting they drill through the elecrtromagnetic catastrophe was already underway. Metals of all kinds were bein sucked into the hole in the finale. We know per the filming reports that they essentially go back and recreate this very scene. What if they go back, showing that this event already set in motion by Dharma, was to originally destroy the island? Faraday goes back brings the bomb and then Juliette detonates it succesfully, somehow offsetting the said event? I think what Lindeloff means is that while Faraday has the right idea about changing variables, its impossible to know what you have to change because you havent lived through the life you were supposed to do whatever you did that caused the event you were trying to prevent. Faraday doing nothing was what would have kept the timeline where 815 doesnt crash. I also think it will be very very stupid if Juliette doesnt successfully detonate the bomb. Think about that very last sequnce we see in the season 5 finale. Jack tosses the bomb core down the hole, then nothing. Juliette gets sucked down into the hole (doesnt die) and can function enough to smash the bomb to detonate it, we see a white light (insinuating detonation) but then we find out in season 6 it didnt blow? Nah. It blew sky high.

We're supposed to be getting tidbits for ep 4/5 of season 6, so why then are we just hearing about supposed season opener stuff? My theory is that we see the alternate reality that could have been for the first few eps, and maybe they show us that the passengers' lives end up intertwining regardless. I think this alt. reality will get people talking and then once it starts to get old by the 3rd or 4th ep (2nd or 3rd week) we're going to be taken back to the swan site (per shoot report). The footage filmed (post Juliette falling) of Sawyer devastated, Jack demoralized Kate/Hurley/Miles confused, Sayid bleeding to death and then moments later we're flashed into the "alt." timeline that we've seen unfold through seasons 1-5. Season 6 opens with scenes from the new timeline so we get "our fill" of the full cast going through the (non 815 crashing reality) motions. We see how things "could have been" again Im guessing we're to be shown there are striking similarities sans the island. Also we see the 2007 timeline with fake Locke beating down Richard, Locke's burial, ect. Then by the third week we are thrusted back to the Swan site and the bomb detonates. Like any theory I could be wrong of course (lmao) but then why are we just now getting reports that a wounded Sayid is being tended to by the others in the 4th ep? It doesnt make much sense. Everyone is assuming theyre either refilming or doing some late filming for the first episodes, but I dont agree.

What if it's a play on words and he meant "executi...

2009-10-16T19:58:15.881+01:00

What if it's a play on words and he meant "execution" as in the wrong person got killed? As in Daniel wasn't supposed to die (executed basically, by his mum). Right idea, wrong execution...someone else should've been killed by Eloise?

OurSkies, like I said, stay tuned for the post on ...

2009-10-16T17:16:16.878+01:00

OurSkies, like I said, stay tuned for the post on my blog!

Paul, if blogging about LOST has taught me anything, it's that people dig alternate realities WAY more than they do time travel.

John, the right idea is that they can reset the timeline. The wrong execution is that FAILURE to detonate the bomb causes a reset.

the Swan literature thing is really bugging me. Al...

2009-10-16T15:35:43.011+01:00

the Swan literature thing is really bugging me. Also the ""Faraday had the right idea but the wrong execution" eh? Should he have blown up the Orchid instead?

Aww, I'd love for the Sawyer/Juliet one to be true...

2009-10-16T04:59:39.437+01:00

Aww, I'd love for the Sawyer/Juliet one to be true.

About the swan and literature - last year's ARG included the labels of "White Swan" and "Black Swan" - I wonder if maybe those were clues as well. The only thing I came across was Swan Lake, which is a ballet, but based on early European literature. I haven't been looking that long though, hoping someone else is more knowledgeable than me on that subject. XD

The first notion about time travel was given in th...

2009-10-16T00:05:34.457+01:00

The first notion about time travel was given in the show itself, and quite early, right? With Sayid and Hurley listening to the radio. So maybe they just denied it to play us a little longer - and the not-alt.-reality was planned all along.
We have already seen Desmond trying to change the outcome (in the Pub as well as for Charlie) and he wasn't successful. I am not sure he was mindflashing into in the 'new' Season 06-timeline when he experienced those flashes, because in the not-AT Charlie wouldn't even be on the island, so it could be something completely different with his flashes. But it hinted already at the universe not only having some way of course correcting, but also a really good sense of humour. A not-AT would therefore still be in line with WHH, although in a crazy kind of way. And it would allow for some character exploring and answering of the destiny/identity-question. Therefore it would just be in line with the general story they tell us since Season 01. If it wasn't their 'true' destiny to come to the island, but happened due to their own decisions (maybe it was significant that in the end everyone of the 815 plus Juliet explicitly agreed to the plan), both destiny and free will are shown to be wrong concepts that can't be played against each other. Maybe this is what Jacob and Anti-Jacob are fighting (or betting?) about.

well see I once read that for the season finales t...

2009-10-15T22:59:20.178+01:00

well see I once read that for the season finales the writers toss around a couple ideas, and the one that they choose tends to be the one where people are like "nah they couldnt get away with that", (for instance, the island just disappearing.) Now the alt. reality has been proposed by fan theories since at least Season 2. Its something tangible out there that the writers know has been speculated upon (timetravel, anyone? a theme which they denied was involved on the show and somehow became intertwined in the shows "DNA.")

I think they realize that unlike timetravel, the alt. reality will be extremely unpopular, but people will tune in to see it in disbelief, and just as we are like "ok, im turning this off and never watching lost again", blam we're taken back to the swan buliding site where Juliette detonates the bomb and boomb (we're now course corrected back to the season 1-5 "reality" somehow, dont ask me how just somehow.)It makes sense if you notice all the jumpy filming reports. We're supposed to be on what the 4/5th ep and we're just now getting reports for the season opener?

As gimmicky as that sounds, in terms of a fucntion (and perhaps narrtive twist even?) the disjointed timelines will serve some purpose. It wont just be for nothing. It will have to explain how Sun is already on the island in 2007, how the losties from 77 return to 2007, ect.

I dont get overly married to any one theory, but I really think this is whats going to happen based upon what we know. I keep thinking over and over about the comments made at comicon when Gorge Garcia dissed the notion of the alt. reality and Cuze/Lindleoff said "just trust us, on this one guys." I've even seen interviews/podcasts with them where they say an alt. timeline is cheap, copout, ect. Then again they did the same with timetravel so ionno...

I believe Sawyer and Juliet will meet in the AT. M...

2009-10-15T20:42:07.131+01:00

I believe Sawyer and Juliet will meet in the AT. Maybe that's why Damon used ALWAYS in caps. Cute.

Sorry, it's just me again: I just thought about "w...

2009-10-15T20:40:00.829+01:00

Sorry, it's just me again: I just thought about "will be" and "ALWAYS" in that sentence - kind of a contradiction with regard to the fact that as far as we have seen it in Season 01-04/5 1/2, Kate has been Sawyer's true love according to Damon's own words. Now, but Juliet WILL be his true love in Season 06 - and has there ALWAYS been - but in the 'true' timeline, not on the island.

This would be a very relieving thought because it wouldn't turn Damon Lindelof into that kind of writer that changes his story with the audience's wishes and render a great deal of Season 05 meaningless.

I guess Sawyer and Kate will meet per chance in 2004 at LAX in an early scene in Season 06, won't know each other and - MEH.

Meaning 'everybody' of course - there seems to be ...

2009-10-15T20:23:10.489+01:00

Meaning 'everybody' of course - there seems to be some stuff under the 'y'...