No idea on this one, probably fake but will post anyway until we can prove it fake.
I have some very valuable information. This is 100% accurate. Karl was not killed by Ben's people. Danielle doesn't die. In a future episode BEFORE the finale, We will see Charles Widmore on the island. The people who shot at danielle and Karl are in fact mercenaries hired by Widmore. So widmore has more than 1 team working for him. The mercenaries are totally decked out in camoflauge. They are their to retrieve Ben and kill everyone else. In the Ben Centric episode we see the mercenaries burning down the barracks. I don't know if they retrieve Ben. As of this moment one lostie dies in the retrievel, but this of course is scheduled to change.
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Parts could be real but it has been revealed that someone would die and we saw Karl get shot in the heart, so I am pretty sure he is dead. I don't see how or why Charles Widmore would want to go on the island when he is raging war with the people on it. And why would Widmore want a second team closing in on the island? He already has the Freighter people, and their comunications are down so that means that they couldn't tell people on the island something in advance.
Sounds fake to me.
I don't really buy it, but Widmore may have called in mercenaries if he thought / thinks the freighter people were killed or compromised.
sounds like a load of crock to me. no way is this real
No, it's real. Free iPhones for everyone who forwards this rumor on to their friends in the next 5 minutes. My friend who walked past the Apple headquarters last week talked to somebody who claimed to be Steve Jobs verified this rumor!
It's just putting two and two together, and guess work. I don't believe the 2 teams for Widmore and I don't believe he's on the island either.
Out of curiosity Dark, did you receive this rumor before or after you posted the interview with Blake Bashoff in which he describes the shooters as wearing camoflauge? Because the person could have just read that interview and formed a theory off it.
that, and Blake says Karl is dead. Blake has Broadway commitments.
bsti, you said it.
The real question is WHEN did the mercenaries get on the island?
Faaaake!
Well, to be fair, I don't think the poster is saying that Karl doesn't die, only that it wasn't Ben's people who did it. He didn't write that very clearly, but that's how I took it. But yeah, there's nothing new here that couldn't be pieced together from previous set reports and such.
Beside, the people who shot them are probably Keemy and some of the other guys missing from the freighter.
this sounds more accurate than some of the more recent rumors we've heard... but it also sounds like a mix of what we saw in the promo and what we already know... so.. we'll see.. im sure it's a hoax tho..
My guess is hoax tho the whole mercs-in-camo thing was confirmed in the Bashoff interview.
The freight is there to keep the losties and ben's people busy, to disorient them. So thos theory seems very real to me.
Im still hoping Dharma gets involved with the current story at some point, and have Widmore vs Dharma vs Ben and the Losties.
It kinda makes sense. They couldnt just go in guns blazing. Send in a small crew of specialists to infiltrate and disable the jamming equiptment and defense system. The locations of wich could be mapped via tracking the sat phones. Then take out the leader. The island is yours.
Another Lostie to die? This must be a hoax.
One thing makes me think, though.
The mercenaries could be Keamy, Omar and some others. Maybe Widmore would never´ve been aible to hire Scientist like Faraday and Charlotte if we´d expose his real intentions. There´re so many trust issues among the freighter people that it seems to be a double play.
Thatcould lead Faraday, Charlotte and Lapidus to team up with the Losties and to fight with them.
Widmore on the island? Naaa
i get the feeling charlotte is one of the bad ones. miles is probably not one of the downright evil ones but is there for his own reasons. and i think faraday and lapidus are genuinely naive to the true intentions of the freighters mission. i think lapidus will play a role in saving the oceanic 6.
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I ´m not sure with Lapidus. The heli would never reach mainland and I guess you only can carry 5 adults + Aaron. No place left for Lapidus. I believe that it will be Sayid who´s piloting it- though I wouldn´t like it because he´s becoming a sort of Mc Guyver.
Or Lapidus is doing several trips to the freighter, but in that case there could be more people be saved. Maybe Far and Char and they wouldn´t count as O6? Before getting everybody to the freighter the heli breaks down and Lapidus is either dying or strandet on the island.
Fake, Fake, Fake!!
sounds like the guy pieced together other spoilers about the military guys and the attack on the barracks, so I'd say that stuff is true from other sources, but anything he came up with which is more than one death, widmore on the island, and a second paramilitary group (especially when it's obviously keamy/omar/etc.).
I agree with many of you'all. Except for the part about Widmore on the Island, this is mostly pieced together from stuff we already know or are fairly certain of already.
Karl is not killed by Ben's people - He is dead, yes, but the folks from The Temple didn't shoot him. His interview confirms that.
Danielle is wounded. Uh-huh. We saw that, thanks.
Mercenaries and camouflage. Got it. Not exactly earth shattering, is it?
They are there to get Ben and kill everyone else. To quote Hurley, "Dude, we knew that like forever ago."
The mercenaries are burning down the barracks is already part of the spoiler section here and we know that another Lostie is set to die before the end of the season.
There's nothing here except the Widmore/Island stuff. And that seems speculative to me.
While I would like to believe all these assertions (except the one that puts Widmore on the island--he's not a "hands dirty" type of guy), I don't think there's anything here that can't be attributed to basic 2+2=4 assumption. And anyone who says he has "valuable information" that is "100% accurate" sends my bs-meter to 11.
I never believe anything posted by someone who doesn't know the difference between "their," "there," and "they're."
hoax
Imagine, we could have had the genius losers who invent these rumours writing Lost scripts whilst the strike was ongoing and we would have had a full season.
Although on second thought...I think I'll wait for the professional version, thanks anyway.
I think it´s fake... Well, I´ve got a question if we only have seen one helicopter in the freighter: how did Naomi go to the island?
Two helicopters? Two freithers (remember we have haven´t seen Charlotte and Faradai in Michael´s flashback)? Other options?
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I think there is truth to some of it.
As for 2 helicopters, Naomi's crashed just off shore and she parachuted on to the island.
There's one freighter that had 2 chopper landing pads on it. So 2 choppers, one freighter. One chopper crashed, one is still in use.
I don't think Danielle is dead, I think the island has helped her survive for a reason. Alex will be taken hostage as foretold by Ben when he said if they knew who she was, they would use her against him. 0408 was the first shot fired in the war that is to come.
Perhaps Widmore knows about the healing secrets of the island and a man of his power and resources would do whatever it takes when the end result might be immortality.
Fake.
For a start, I think that it was The Others that killed Karl. It has nothing to do with Widmore... Ben set Karl and Rousseau up. If you look at Ben's face when he sees Karl and Alex so close in 4x08, you'll see how worried/annoyed he is... I think he's scared that she'll get pregnant and end up dying.
That said.. if she's already pregnant... maybe the only way for her to survive is for her to make it off-island? She wasn't on Oceanic, so she could also make it off.
I'm not so sure it is fake. We know that the freighter people are divided up in to groups, each with their own part to play.
Naomi wouldnt let Frank know what she was taking the first flight of the island for. She said it was on a "Need to know" basis only.
Michael was told they were on a rescue mission, yet when he challenged the guys who were shooting off the side of the boat, he was ridiculed and told to go away.
For what its worth, i believe that the 2nd team (mercs) are the guys who were practicing shooting off the side of the boat. Frank was ordered to take them to the island, which is why the chopper was missing, and they are the ones who shot Karl and Roussaeu.
In addition to that, i also believe that Charlotte and Daniel were not told the whole truth. There orders were to disable the poison gas facility in order to stop Ben killing everyone on the island, but i dont believe that they were aware that the freighter people were going to kill everyone on the island.
As to whether or not Widmore will turn up on the island, well, why not? If he knows the location of the freighter, and if he can get there, he can get on to the island.
We know part of this is fake now, since Danielle's body was dug up in "Something Nice Back Home," and Karl's too. We also know now that it's true Karl was not killed by Ben's people, which the poster stated, having been (ostensibly) killed by the team shown to be holding Alex in episodes previous to "SNBH."